Nahtino
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Ex players comany ??Glen Binkin , a lawyer who had/has BIG clients in Rhoo Radebe/Mark Fish and others overseas ...
Mike Makaab - Agent to ALL the players
Kickoff Magazine has a large readership, and a success in the industry, BUT the main guys in that mag are Geoarge Dernley (Not a LEGEND in his footballing days but anyway) Rob Moore , Ian Mathews ...
Terry Paine & Gary Bailey - Hold good jobs @ Supersport ..GB is a legend and he's involved in 2010 consultancy work & he's involved closely with Manchester United SA work and relations beteen fans and the club...
Mark Gleeson - Comemntator , HIGHLY respected journalist , involved in 2010 commentry and consultation ...
Bloem celtic, Wits , Swallows ... are owned by 'Whites'
Soccer laduma is run by a white company, SA365 as well ...
PSL outsorurces its media information from a white company
Sponsors ...You now have "white' companys pledging support to soccer eg Spur steak ranches , Telkom , Mtn ...
I am NOT @all dissing these guys for taking the initative to persure these intrests but it is an example that our ppl do not know how to take advantage of their sport ..
These guys former players some of them others not had the foresight on how to get involved in the game and profit from it ..
and yet
eg: Our ppl think EVERY in OWNInG a club as a way to riches ...and yet .. they struggle to maintain them ..
eg Bush Bucks , Amazulu , Ria Stars , I men look at the suckers that bought Hellenic status and got relagated AGAIN..
others go into COACHING...but not all of us are cut out to be great coaches .. Trot Moloto - Jerry Skhosana - Phil MAsinga
Jomo and Kaizer to try sumthing for our X plyers .. but these gentlemen ddnt just stick to the usual ways of giving back into soccer ...
they were dynamic and inovative ...and now have become HOUSEHOLD BRANDs worth MILIONS!
Kaizer is THE man when it comes to club ownership, success , team ethos, profesionalism , MARKETING SAVY ...just look @ cCheifs
its a DAMN DYNESTY ! Kaizer , K Jnr , Jesica and Bobby (thers a picture of them together ) that will contiinue thru th ages ..
Jomo being more hands on , in coaching has mastered the art of talent scouting, player managemnt , overseas profile building , networking and bussiness skill ..Africa knows and RESPECT JOMO ..
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What Im saying is... you'l find our players being STARS and TOP draw cards during their playing daysyet when its over , you'l hear DEPRESSING stories of their FALL into the abiss
and yet .. youl find those who werent so glamorous and well known beuing the ones who become the BOSSES an run the show ..(imagine Sofioudelious of Celtic being Club Manager of Celtic after his playing career ..and then Spandeel being a meer youth coach ...@ Bloem Young Masters or sumthing ...
Bafwetu .. LETS BE ..Agents .. Stadium Managers , Club Managers , Marketing managemnt ... SOCCER CONSULTANCY...sports tour operations ...merchandise merchants ...Specialist coaching ( like the Samba soccer school guys)
Our ppl should go into other avenues . lets b innovative and build relationships with other clubs beyond our shores , lets BUILD OUR SA SOCCER BRAND cos this 2010 WC will be about US !!
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U'r team ply a very a game. So where are the gaols bro wa ka? 
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Nahtino
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we'r currently playing younsgters and giving them a chance ..while veterens like Miering are sitting it ou .. Khabo is doin an Arsenal .. but comes a time to start winning ..
Im a bit releived that we'r not alone (Black leopards are with us ..)
Amazulu have a game in hand ( They NEED to get moving , considering the money they paid)
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Maritzburg United also have moved higher ..
butHOPEFULLY this is the case for Abafana .. U saw their football, some of th touches were FANTASTIC.. we need those goals though ..and tyten up our defence unit ..
its still al ong way , but we'v lost a lot of points now ..
otherwise .. Telkom cup money wud go a long way to easing stress
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Nahtino
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Ok Iv re writen the original post in this thread ..check it out
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nkosinipho
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Hey Nahtino Do SABC sell old games?? I want to watch Prof Ngubane, Shoes at blackpool, Denis Ramutsi(Durban bush bucks), Ace Mnini, Vader Mphosho, Any'Jesus' Karaziscy ( Orlando pirates), and many more. I want to watch abo Malombo, Sizwe Motaung etc. Abo Banda Mchana, Kungoane. Abo Mjomane, Ace Ntsoelengoe, Teenage dladla, Botsotso Makhanya, Bashin Mahlangu. Scara Thindwa, Marks Mabonyane, Pitso MOsimane, Fani Madida, Steve KALAMAZOO, the list is endless Mfethwu.
I want to watch last but not least the Best SOUTH AFRICAN PLAYER EVER DOCTOR'16V'KHUMALO. His Vision was unamatched, Jomo and Ace could dribble, score goals and make wonderful passes, but they didnt have that Mastery on the ball like 16V, Their Visoin was not on 16V level, while theycould split the defence with a pass, but no one did better than Docter, he could spot a hole in defence while nobody culd see it. only Ace(RIP) that come close in that department IMO. Docter made Fani Madida( true good player at blackpool but 16V made him look better), Mcgreggor, Masinga, Mark williams look like world beaters.
Go Ask Shakes Mashaba which player has he ever seen that was able to control the game like 16V and Split the defence like him in History. He will say " I played with Jomo, I watch Ace'Mabheka phansi', I wacth Mlungisi Ngubane, Watch Shoes Moshoue played and they were fantastic,excellent and everything, But what DOCTOR'16V' KHUMALO could do in a game is unmatched in South african history, Nobody could control the game like 16V and split the defence like him and be pose and calm on the ball like him, he was an artist, i got great respect for 16V"
I got great respect for Prof Ngubane and Vader Mphosho the two of the uncelebrated south african football legends but they will attest that 16V was aMIDFIELD MAESTRO Tell Me one player who impacted South African peole morden Doctor khumalo?? Nadah, No one Mpintsi- when you mention 16V to an Old men in Hostel, U Magrisa ekhaya, Amajita angangathi, Abo Jomo, Barker, Past players, Current players, Journalist and Mandela, they just smile and say "Those were the days" you get the picture.
When the world/Argentinans were calling abo Ariel ortegas as next Marradona's Doctor Khumalo taught them how to play the game only if abo Masinga could finsh, but the Marster scored and control the game, Abo Semeoni couldnt get th ball out of him, what a MASTER.
Hey Nahtino I've decided to divert your topic 
Who is your legend?? Zane moosa  only in standing on top of the ball . Sometimes I ask myself if Abo Zane Moosa were celebrated why not abo LIAU,NGWENYA??
Mention i just want us to talk about this Legends, From 70-2006, I know them I can describe them how thwy play. Its Not Only Docter Khumalo, they are Many broe lets discuss them.
Abo Hlongwane( the on who just died, Rest in Piece Maswayiswayi Legend), its sad kids dont know this legends while SABC got bunch of tapes. nut dont show them to the public. I tell you if they can show them to the public I tell you feel like slaping Jomo Sono for playing his team that kind of football.
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Nahtino
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Hahahaha !! Bra u have a whole cataloge of these guys where as I dont .. but Iv checked a few of the players in my time
Iv never seen a LOT of players like oBotsotso , skara thindwa ...a few Ihave seen though ..
Patson banda was a FARKIN Athelte, U could just see by the guy that he was a PANTHER..SOOO FIT , the likes of Brian FetKoek Baloyi can learn a thing ..
Proffesoor Ngubane looked a PLAYER Il tell U that .. Teenage was a control MASTER( Robinho like)
Mfethu, a TRUE LEGEND is Neil Tovey .. Best captian this country has produced, who can argue with that ..SO Many cups ..technical DISCPLINE, what a role model (is it true, he kept every jersey he played in..instead of swapping jerseys?) so many medals and memories...
Joel FIRE Masilela ( was a favorite of mine ) Mumbush Mudau ( scoring machine) Marks Maponyane ( even more of a legend cos he carried on playing for a while @ Wits and carriedon scoring !!) ROGER fench Connection Feutumba was a MASTER mfethu!
Andre Arendse is a living legend(if not a VERY GOOD player) of sorts
Have u seen a smoother player than Barnes BAPELA? OMGOSH that guy !absolutly LUVED his play
David Mudise was agood player , Oh shyt ...ERIC RAMASIKE !!WHAA SANA !!
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nkosinipho
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I can see man ukuthi you still young, but man u Botsotso the 2nd Makhanya played early 90s man although he was about to retire, same as Bashin. What about Simon Magagula??
Man I'll Go with the Oldies wena you go with abo Ramasike, Page Mahlangu ect. But dont include abo Ngobe, Sapulas ect. ( There is nothing special on those players ). But i wont include abo Teenage, ACE, Jomo etc. people know them and head about them so there is no need.
1. MLUNGISI "PROFESSOR" NGUBANE
The nickname says it all, professor. He would have teach Diego Maradona thinks or two about Juggling the ball, just before the game. And do it again ukugwalisela Abongamla .
He was not about Juggling only though, He amazing left foot. He played as a #10 for Durban Bush bucks, in a 4-3-3 formation which during the cause of the game could turn 4-4-2. He was the heart beat of Durban Bush bucks, when chips were down they look at him to come up with magic.
I remember the other day I was young Kaizer Chiefs were drawn with Durban Bush Bucks in a Cup game maybe it was Mainstay Cup/something but it was in 84-85-86. The cup was played in 2legs.
First leg was played in Durban, Chiefs won 3-1, everybody said its over for 'Amathole amnyama'. Little did they know/ had they forgotten that 'Amathole Amnyama' got a Magician. he turned the table aroung Scoring a goal from the corner, and from a freeking .
Score line was 4-1 at the end in favour of 'Amathole Amnyama' they 5-4 on agreegate. As kid i was listening to a radio, i could picture him, picture Teenage dladla, picture ACE(RIP), since we had no TV that time it was only Radio Zulu (uKhozi). When I grew up i've search for the game i found it from one of my fathers friend's that was a game broe. Too many magicians on the field.
Blessed with magic left foot , with amazing dribbles, pass, freekick, scoring goals from corners, Making crosses by a "RABBONA" ala Maradonna style. too bad Aparteid was alive and kicking this guys didnt get the spot light they deserve.
People say SCARA showboat nice, but man there were times where it was said " Abelungu Bayajikwa" Prof use come with Outrageous tricks kugwaliselwa Izingamla Mpintsi after nice goals. He scored goals from half way line too.
You see Ndoda I praise u Doctor Khumalo and Shoes too much its because for something they've done for National team/South Africa also played in a difficult era ( travelling africa, competing with trongest teams in the world ect. and hold their own). But Honestly Speaking on pure talent This Guys Could have compete with them , give them run of their money.
2. Vader Mphoso ( Currently Moroka swallows assistant coach)
I'll continue later.
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Nahtino
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BRu, U are old .. Im telling ngo 84-85 I was still a lighty ..2years old really ..
If U can still rember all that then U mut surely have been 8 -9 years .. but good for U .. I never had the oppurtunity ..
SABC/Supersport/Kickoff whomever should launch DVD series on the greats .. have footgage , intervies , history , facts , legends , ALL that , U can fill a whole Box set
CHeifs - The begginig to glory 1970's
Decade of DOMINANCE 1980's
The New Age 90's
The FUTURE Y2k & Beyond
Pirates, Swallows , All thos other teams ...they could have a feild day .. cos its relalyimportant that we recover our hisortical heritage ..
Uv checkd on XT that the Spanish guys go OVERBOARD wiht Real MAdrid/Barca/Spanish history ...
Im telling U .. 2010 is around the corner
anyway .. I guess my decade was the NEW AGE 90's .. oRamasike ..YES SURE oNgobe were alryt , sum ppl will swear him and sebola are legends
HEll what bout Pollen Ndlanya ? But sum players had very good few seasons and disapeard ..
Bra , ur too old for me man ..
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Nahtino
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ok lets go crazy ...off the top of my head
MArks Maponyani - Go Man Go Double Dvd
Disk1 - AmakhosiKaizer Chiefs years
- early years
-Begginig of his career
- Great memeories
Disk II: Amambhakniya
- The league title
- Player of the year
- Crossing over
- Bafana
- The CAF Champs
Bonus's English , Sesotho , Zulu ..subtiles and audio
R 110 @ Reliable Wharehouse/ Kaizerchiefs shop & Bucs online
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Heres a BEST SELLER
Kaizer Cheifs Anthology
Box set 1 - The Club, players , greatest players , cups , trophies , wins , EVERYTHING on the club
run time = 180 mins
Box II - Kaizer THE MAN , His most personal depiction , behind the scenes , the family man ,
interview with Mandela , Tutu , Khoza , Thabo Mbeki ... his famil, his wife , Kzr Jnr ,Bobby ...Niel Tovey ...Rhoo Radebe ....
Runtime = 120 mins
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nkosinipho
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Nah I'm not too old for you, By that game I was just 8month in my mother womb. Its just that I watch this game later broe, people who were previledge that time tape them. In 98 SABC played some of the games from 88-93 likely i was able to tape a few. Man I a football fanatic, i eat, dream, sleep with it, plays it on my spare time. I hate to here people saying Arendse/Josta Dladlas are great wingers. Fire Masilela is/was miles ahead on them.
About those DVDs are they in stores?? Oh you just giving them an Idea.
Doctor with all his personal Sponsers he should try to make a DVD of his Career same with Shoes, so that they will be remembered.
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Nahtino
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There should have been one out 3 years ago , but he better do it NOW b4 its too late ( Kids will wonder , who the hell is Dr K ?
But anyway ... its an Idea bro .. seriously
Ul get Ronaldo , Baggio , Baresi , Maldini ... Italy's,Brazils,Frances World Cup victorys ...
its very importnt and its about preserving history...
Maybe U could comile sumthing bro..how many tapes U got ... Put thm onto DVD or sumthing and ...'Sell them '
Im serious...
MAINSTAY FINAL 79&80 Cup finals Dvd
Dr K vs Ace Ntoeleng vs Syabonga Nkosi Dvd ...?
WHAA SANA ... thats TYT !
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