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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and other news ..
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Parreira on mission to fetch Benni, Quinton

September 05 2006 at 07:10AM

By Mathews Mpete

Carlos Alberto Parreira has his first assignment. The South African Football Association (Safa) is sending the new high-profile coach to England to try to convince prodigal sons Benni McCarthy and Quinton Fortune to play soccer for Bafana Bafana again.

Parreira is due to hold a press conference on Tuesday to tell the country of his plans for the team. But it is known that he will embark on a meet-and-persuade mission on which two national coaches before him - Stuart Baxter and Ted Dumitru - could claim only limited success.

McCarthy, one of the most successful Bafana goal scorers, last played for his country during the disappointing African Cup of Nations in Egypt in January.

Since then, the former Porto and Ajax Cape Town striker, now playing for Blackburn Rovers, has excused himself from all Bafana games "until further notice".

The story is much the same for Fortune, who plays for Bolton Wanderers. The attitude of both players has apparently not gone down well with Parreira. He will no doubt ask them what their problems are.

Parreira has apparently been instructed by Safa chief executive Raymond Hack and president Molefi Oliphant to persuade McCarthy and Fortune to recommit themselves to the national team.

Officially, Parreira's trip to try to lasso McCarthy and Fortune has been neither confirmed nor denied.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaizer jnr is proving to be a great player with a peircing eye for goal . I know its early in the season , but who else from SA is scoring ...

he seems to LOVE scoring and he's THE man ryt now .. did yall see his goal last nyt against Cosmos ? Outside the box long range shot ... very nice ...



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BFN BFN squad for the game against Zambia has been announced. as usual, we have some few surprises.(Paulse leading the list). and three sundowns players have been dropped. a solid looking squad but maybe another striker is needed (Kaizer Motaung Jr. is a good supersub)

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Goalkeepers: Rowen Fernandez (Kaizer Chiefs), Calvin Marlin (Mamelodi Sundowns)

Defenders: Bradley Carnell (Karlsruhe, Germany), Ricardo Katza (SuperSport United), Siphiwe Mkhonza (Kaizer Chiefs), George Mofokeng (Ajax Cape Town), Aaron Mokoena (Blackburn Rovers, England), Nasief Morris (Panathinaikos, Greece), Cyril Nzama (Kaizer Chiefs)

Midfielders: Mlungisi Gumbi (Lamontville Golden Arrows), Siyabonga Nkosi (Kaizer Chiefs), Steven Pienaar (Borussia Dortmund, Germany), Gert Schalkwyk (Kaizer Chiefs), Macbeth Sibaya (Rubin Kazan, Russia), Dillon Sheppard (Mamelodi Sundowns), Siphiwe Tshabalala (Free State Stars), Benedict Vilakazi (Orlando Pirates)

Strikers: Siyabonga Nomvete (Aalborg BK, Denmark), Nathan Paulse (Ajax Cape Town), Glen Salmon (FC Groningen, Netherlands).



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I heard that Khabo ddnt hav much say in the sqaud, its all opitso exept for Gumbi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theyr 2 o the same type o guys and mayybe pairing them up together isnt the best thing ... Khabo wantd out but was reintroduced into the fold

Its money and exposure @ the end of the day...PLus the national cause

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where the hell is Kaizer Motaung Jr. ?


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Bafana Bafana will travel to Zambia for their Afcon Cup game next weekend without the services of Mamelodi Sundowns’ winger, Dillon Sheppard, who has been ruled out of action for four weeks.

Sheppard sustained a broken foot during the Brazilians SAA Supa8 semi-final loss to Supersport United on Saturday.

Sundowns’ manager Harris Chueu confirmed to Kick Off that Sheppard would be out for at least four weeks.

“I spoke to the team's doctor yesterday and confirmed that Dillon will only return to training in 3 to 4 weeks’ time,” says the former Orlando Pirates assistant coach.

Bafana Bafana coach, Pitso Mosimane says they won’t rush to look for a replacement for Sheppard, and will only confirm a new addition after the team has assembled for camp on Sunday.

“We selected a pool of players to choose from and we still have to look at what we have at the camp before we think of getting replacements,” he says.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im trying to figure out a really great formation BB could play tht will suit the players

3-2-3-2

lf------------lf
lm---cm----rm
lwb------------------------------RWB
CB---CB----CB






3-1-3-2-1

ST
LAM------RAM
LM----------CM---------RM
-------------DM------------
CB------CB-----CB

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

................................Rowen............................................


......Nzama..........Mokoena.......Morris..........Carnel..............

..............................Sibaya....................

.......Pienaar.............Vilakazi.......................Nkosi

..................Zuma..............Buckley......................

Buckley played him as a striker as he wants to play, if he dont deliver put spandeel, hope the Combo between him and Nkosi works out.

Pienaar should be told to stay a little behind let Nkosi and Vilakazi go foward since they got more punch then him(he hadly shot provide killer pass, score ect., he should play a Pirlo role IMO, if you know what i mean), so if he can play as a deep lying playmaker while helping us keep position that will be great. Sibaya should work hard to win the ball, by moving all over the pitch together with Vilakazi(Seedorf role) should win balls too, since he can. Zuma and Buckley should be mobile, so that Nkosi and Pienaar can pick them up. They shouuld play many triangulation, then we must all track back when we dont have the ball, we go forward with 4 attackers (Zuma,Nkosi,Vilakazi,Buckley). Nzama should be asked to make his right hand side his own(doing both defending and attack like Sizwe use to do), as you I've left him a space below, while Carnel should concentrate on defending, since as you know we playing away, Zuma and Buckley should open up space for up running Nkosi and vilakazi since their good at, maybe we will get 2-3 goals from them. Aim to get an Early goal, then the second one, than we keep position wait for opposition to open space then we add third, Then showboating time baby Very Happy (I'm so optomistic Very Happy )

So maybe it can be like this

...............................Rowen.............................

......Nzama...........Mokoena.....Morris............Carnel..........

......Nzama...Sibaya............Pienaar..........................

..............Nzama...Vilakazi.....................Nkosi......

......Nzama...Zuma.....................Buckley......................



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MAN ^^^THats Y I like this guy ^^^

Keep it up bro !!! Love your posts !!

AWESOME STUFF Bru ... Thats what Im talking bout , thats 1 of the reasons Y I wrote the other thread ystrday ..cos clearly as U explaind the 4-4-2 formation isnt all that for us and doesnt lend us much dpth to play and position players ...

I like the foration youv put on there .. very solid really and the guys on there have a bit of expeiernce ...

Nkosi is one to watch cos I think he's come on the scene pretty well ...and I think he can cope , now its just the bench that matters ...who do we replace the guys with when the going gets tuffor injuries ..?



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Yeah man, I remember some other day, I told guys in supersport forum that 4-4-2 system is not made for South African players or the current crop of players,since we got so many talented playmakers and CM, who got different style of play(e.g. 16V and Shoes).

Now you got players like Nkosi,Pienaar,Moriri(there is no way you can play in 4-4-2 formation), Scara(as you know he is not ur typical winger), Michael Nkambule(Oh God Styles Phumo is killing that boy by playing him at 4-4-2 system Sad )

Up coming Teko Modise,July Mahlangu,Reineilwe Letsholonyne(althoug he is more a CM, Papi Zotwane anothe CM,Kagiso Digacoi(from arrows) ect.)

Then you got players like Leremi,Cheese,Philani Shange, Siwahla(he is not your clasic winger, he is winger playmaker he does not need to go to byline to make somethin happen), who are not natural wingers but they are good-who can maily play in a dynamic 4-3-3.

The systems we should be using should be based on this type of players, not being blinded by a 1 system.


.................................Example............................

.....RB(see LB)............CB...........CB..............LB(Attack and defend)

......................Tsululupa...........Kagiso(Arrows).................

.....................................Nkosi(playmaker).............................

.........Siwahla.................Spandeel........................Leremi......


................................GK.............................

.....RB(More defensive minded).......CB.......CB...............Masilela

....................Siphika...........Letsoloyane(from Jomo)................(masilela)

.............July Mahlangu..............................Teko Modise.........masilela

............................Zuma..............Ngwenya...................
or

........RB.........................CB................CB.................................LB

..............................................Spencer.......................................
.....................July Mahlangu......................(Letsolonyane)................
..................................Nkambule(playmaker)....................
.........................Cheese(SF)....................................
................................................Ndlovu.......................

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.



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I'm back bro...I struggled to get in...but now I'm in. if understand the feeling...Just a vi*gin who just expirienced da first time kinda feelinn' Very Happy How are the forumist in this part of the world? Question



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Da Usual Suspect wrote:
I'm back bro...I struggled to get in...but now I'm in. if understand the feeling...Just a vi*gin who just expirienced da first time kinda feelinn' Very Happy How are the forumist in this part of the world? Question


Who are you? and your post is in the wrong thread. anyway welcome back. we have our own soccer anaylist/expert this sde

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Razz nkosinipho Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ay' iBhoza sana !!!

But yeah well come anyway bro ...



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nkosinipho wrote:
Yeah man, I remember some other day, I told guys in supersport forum that 4-4-2 system is not made for South African players or the current crop of players,since we got so many talented playmakers and CM, who got different style of play(e.g. 16V and Shoes).

Now you got players like Nkosi,Pienaar,Moriri(there is no way you can play in 4-4-2 formation), Scara(as you know he is not ur typical winger), Michael Nkambule(Oh God Styles Phumo is killing that boy by playing him at 4-4-2 system Sad )

Up coming Teko Modise,July Mahlangu,Reineilwe Letsholonyne(althoug he is more a CM, Papi Zotwane anothe CM,Kagiso Digacoi(from arrows) ect.)

Then you got players like Leremi,Cheese,Philani Shange, Siwahla(he is not your clasic winger, he is winger playmaker he does not need to go to byline to make somethin happen), who are not natural wingers but they are good-who can maily play in a dynamic 4-3-3.

The systems we should be using should be based on this type of players, not being blinded by a 1 system.


.................................Example............................

.....RB(see LB)............CB...........CB..............LB(Attack and defend)

......................Tsululupa...........Kagiso(Arrows).................

.....................................Nkosi(playmaker).............................

.........Siwahla.................Spandeel........................Leremi......


................................GK.............................

.....RB(More defensive minded).......CB.......CB...............Masilela

....................Siphika...........Letsoloyane(from Jomo)................(masilela)

.............July Mahlangu..............................Teko Modise.........masilela

............................Zuma..............Ngwenya...................
or

........RB.........................CB................CB.................................LB

..............................................Spencer.......................................
.....................July Mahlangu......................(Letsolonyane)................
..................................Nkambule(playmaker)....................
.........................Cheese(SF)....................................
................................................Ndlovu.......................

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.


Got DAMN !!!

U know yo shyt hey .. theres players there I never really noticed ...

Im very impressed Nkosinipho !

On the topic tho, I agree with U , and just looking at yo system it brings a lot of excitment to me just looking at that formation ..

I think thats Y some players just end up not fitting into BB when theyr given a chance ...

A classical example is Surprise Moriri .. He looks TOTALY wasted on the right wing , and hosenstly , Pitso is clueless as to how to use him ..@ the mo ..

but its not just Pitso's team its also Khabo and Gavin Hunt now in the mix, surely these three guys can come up with a good system together and get us a POSITIVE result ...

By positive I mean @Least a draw with the oys showing a LOT of promise or a TOTAL WIN ...



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Predictions Gents !!??

I say ..EISH Im sorry t sy this but a 1-0 los is a defualt result in my mind the way things havebeen going ...

BUT should the coaches and players plug the gaps ..I can see a 1-1 draw away as sumthing to work from ...

A win would be OUTSTANDING !!

COME ON BOYS !!



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Zambia - Bafana Bafana

well well Bafwethu ! Just finished watching the BIG Game betweeen the 2 rivals ..MAN WAHAT A GAME ! A goood overall match from a BB point of view ..I mean really , when last did the boys look @least DECENT as they did today !?


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Rowan Fernandez is THE TRUTH !!

Our defence looks ..solid , not IMPENATrABLE but solid and able to do its job ..but having sed that theyr going to GROW together more and more ...

Overseas players are needed..just look at Mbazo, Sibaya was VERY VERY much welcome as the midfield steel.. I never belived Nkosinipho..but he was great .. Carnell was stable ..

what a diffrence hey !

Tshabalala had a V GOOD game .. nice one from the debutant .. !Hopefully its his TRUE potential and not just 1game/NT debut form .. but WONDERFULL to see him

The attackers did well ...

S.Nkosi is THE HYT, I feared that he was a bit new to the NT level... but He's proved me wrong , and he's such a calm collected player ..WONDERFULL ..The guys who sed he's like Dr were ryt , his passing ,when he's holding possesion and shooting , he looks like him .. but more importantly , He's provided us with IMAGINATION and VISION .. also flair .. HE allowed Pienaar to hav a good game cos they hav a good combo together

DID U SEE the passes Nkosi was making !?! DAMN !! Even the ones that went OFF, but still, U could see the intention ..

Theres work to do still, but like I sed last tym, the boys are getting better and better each game ..

our next Qualifier action happens in March if Im not mistaken ? But anyway , lots of air between then and there .. and we'r BUIILDING, BULIDLING STEADILY !!
So w'r gon need to play games(practise games) trying out diffrent combos and players

WOOOHOOO !!! Its a victory, lets take it ..

Im so happy ..



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Firstly like to say well done to the boys, you showed character, dertemination, and that you can die for this Country. Little by little we will get better. Lot of positives were obtained from the game, and some negatives aswell, especiall Defensive unit, of our team, all in all I'm happy we won the competitive match after a long time. One of the positive I'll discuss below Cheers. Others later.

I once told my fellow chatters in another forum that Bafana Bafana need an Player who will drive them, a player who got Positive attitude, a player who will make others play better, a Player who is Profectional can adapt to different situations, a player who can lead attack with creativity and flair, a player who hate loosing.

I must say that i am begining to see a trend here that a certain Player every time when he enters the Pitch doning South African Pride jersey,(Yellow/Gold/ whitte and green shorts)we seem to have a positive play, determination, fighting spirit, We create usually clear cut chances, generally the whole team plays better(although its not great yet) ect. If we can take a closer look to all games this boy has parcipated for Bafana since his Debut(Gold cup,USA),first he wasnt a starter, and a nobody to South African public, he got an oppotunity to start 1 game, he scored(does it reminds you of the most talented SA legends ever, in my Sig. Very Happy ), although we won the first game(where he didnt play), we didnt win it convincigly, we won because opposition mistakes(it was aginst Mexico), but when this boy played(2nd match), we were better(won Man of the Match award) what I sawed is this fearless factor he has, the drive of wanting to do better for Bafana(remember 1st Cap), something which is lacking to some other talented South African players(some are/were alredy regulr dissapointments in the team, they are reason we rank 77/something, theey got huge talent but there is something they didnt have, which I believe this boy got it). Add his natural talent+ the BODY(strength and height) required to play Morden football(Picture the legend in my Sig Very Happy ).

He has not been a starter fo national team, but man we centainly play Better when he is on the team(starting the game/coming as an early sub.), this is the kind of player who can take us foward, he can make other players that are talented but lacking the drive,fear factor(e.g Pienaar's etc.)playbetter. I believe Siyabong Nkosi should be given a chance to Playmake for Bafana, even if it means the Darlings of other peoples are Sacrifices it doesnt matter, this is the nation at stake, we all want the best for the country. Others have failed to make an impact in the team(Mngomeni's, Ngobe's,Sapula's, Pienaar's,Tso,Benni's ect. ), he just need a Chance i am sure he will take it by both hands,The boy can find his teammate with a perfect pass, its either he plays it wide or to his strikers but he is good at finding holes in defence, add that he got strength, skill, can variate his game, play as a second forward, play 1-2s ect. Also he got a HEIGHT and Body to compete in highest level of footbal.

Tell me one player who went to First Division,won his team(not fashionable team in SA at that time) the promotion to PSL(after 2-3 season the team being in First Divission if i'm not mistaken),being leading goalscore and top assits maker in the team, then came to PSL, on their first season, he shined above his teamates in a Big league-becomin the Leading goal Scorer for his team as a midfielder and leading assist stats in the team, the boy made the likes of Jury Merahe's look like good players, help his team finsh Top 8 in PSL(something his team didnt do for a long time while campaining in PSL), In his second season won his team a Trophy after 20yrs of Drought in the Big League, 3rd season in Psl-on a new team with big challenges has already contributed in prea-season trophies, him and Scara are on a verge to win KC a trophy on 22October, after a dissapointing start of the season, he step up for his team when his coach was on a verge of being fired, scored and played a big role in the winning goal,he is the one who playe 1-2s with Radebe, after beating defender with step over Razz

Man thats called a sign of being a CHAMPION, having Character, good personality + Huge Talent. Thats SIYABONGA NKOSI, Bafana Need a Champion, clearly he is the leading candidate on that(Teko Modise follows after 2 seasons in Psl)


All I say he give him Chance, play him in a system that can make him give more to the team, But I'm prety sure he can adapt to any system(when playing against Minnows, we can use 4-4-2 with him in the center but against big boys, we need him to focus more on attack), let him have Defensive cover, let him dictacte matters for us, I'm sure even himself would work on his weakness(finishing,stamina and more strenth to shake off defenders) to improve just to make us proud. But some people will say, I say this because he plays for Chiefs, No he got all the tools to be a Bafana great, Positive play, Professionalsim, Always looking for a foward pass or creating something for a team. All he needs is to be given confident, and say "son we Trust you", I'm sure he wont dissapoint us.

Remember how Docter Khumalo, Shoes Moshoue Bafana Careers started, look at the games they played for us, look how they changed Bafana Fortunes, More especially go look at Bafana Perfomances and results when 16V didnt play, you will see what I'm talking about. Go to www.safa.net. Nkosi is not 16V/Shoes in terms of skills, but he is close to them and with the Character he matched them, he can help us archieve what we need. Clearlly he is (16.5V).

With the supportin cast of Morris,Mokoena,Zuma, and palyers like Scara,Leremi,tso,Pienaar,Mabizela,Teko Modise,Ntuka,Davids,Reinelwe ect. we can go far.

P.S: Hey Nahtino, I wrote this post in othe forum first and copied and paste it here, Good to here that we see the Same thing on SIYABONGA NKOSI(16.5V Very Happy )



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was Siphiwe Tshabalala third CAP if i am no Mistaken,(Zambia in AFCON, Botswana-COSAFA, Zambia-AFCONQ)-The first one he was voted for the fair/flair play award, Second didnt watch, Third good positioning, finishing was missing though-Hope he continues this way and Bring his team to PSL again.

Hey Nahtino, I dont want to be the only member who right Huge post, Its just that man, we need to talk about Bafana Bafana, what need to be done inside the field. The time of Complaining about SAFA ect. its gone, Players need to Step up and show the will that they want to play for the Country.

Remember With a Bad Bafana Bafana, our players wont get Contracts in Top 3 Europeans leagus clubs(as you know its as it is a case now, talent is there so whats wrong?? ATTITUDE & MENTALITY OF BEING A WINNER). So Bafana Bafana help players, so they are the one who should work hard and Improve IT. You see the point.

E.g why they are so Many Nigerians in Europe-Simple National team Success over the years, even average ones interms of talent compare to JJP etc. For Scouts to come here, National Team should be in a Map for everybody to see, then we can produce world class players-Because of National team success.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem no problem bro ... Its so nice to see BB coming up and growing from Strength to Strgnth ...

I was really imressed yestrday , esxpecialy cos a lot of us were expecting BB to get BANGED up the behind 3-0 (KAtongo & Co )

but I must say , Mbesuma i a hellva player .. HE cant be underated .. WHAT A striker !! HE was a constant danger to us , even tho he was 100 % but DAMN that boy can play ..

Imagine if Nomvethe was as powerfull built as him ..DAMN !

But we were fortunate in a lot o instances .. Zambia had the ball one time and looked realy threatnging cos they were gaining momnetum ..Id say maybe now theyr in More SHYT than us ..(Supposldy had the STRONGEST lineup possible yestrday)





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